CIA Torture Fetishist Changes His Story.

by Daniel Russ on January 27, 2010

John Kiriakou Changes His Story

“In 2007, a former CIA operative named John Kiriakou told ABC that waterboarding cracked al Qaeda militant Abu Zubayadh, saying “From that day on, he answered every question. The threat information he provided disrupted a number of attacks, maybe dozens of attacks.” Now, in a new book, Kiriakou says he wasn’t actually there for the interrogation. “What I told Brian Ross in late 2007 was wrong on a couple counts,” he writes. “I wasn’t there when the interrogation took place; instead, I relied on what I’d heard and read inside the agency at the time.” Kiriakou suggested to ABC that Zubayadh only lasted 30 or 35 seconds in a single waterboarding session before cracking. In his book, he writes “Now we know that Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in a single month, raising questions about how much useful information he actually supplied.”

Source: Foreign Policy


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CMC January 27, 2010 at 6:40 pm

This man shouldn’t be insulted as a “torture fetishist” because he got information from an Al Qaeda terrorist scumbag using water-boarding. I hope you don’t consider everybody working at the CIA to be the same. The nature of the CIA’s work often means the rules shift and results come first. He cannot be blamed for that.

Water-boarding is hardly torture compared to so many other forms of the “practice”.

Daniel Russ January 27, 2010 at 7:49 pm

Waterboarding is torture. It is also the darkest chapter in US history. That said, he lied about the results. Who else lied about the results? Show me one actual piece of incontrovertible evidence that torturing someone ever stopped any terrorist attack. No one is above the law, including the CIA. Too many people believe that Jack Bauer’s scenarios are workable and the fact is, they only work in Hollywood. Torturing has made us less safe, hardened the opposition to our policies and endangers our own soldiers in the field.

So, yes, he is a liar and a torture fetishist.

Just my opinion.

Daniel Russ January 27, 2010 at 7:50 pm

One more point.

We cannot become what we decry.

Corsair8x January 30, 2010 at 11:18 pm

Many studies have found that torture does not produce *reliable* results. I tend to agree with that. Is waterboarding torture? Christopher Hitchens wrote a fascinating piece on waterboarding for Vanity Fair. Quite remarkable. He can’t see how it is not – and he let them subject him to it. He should have some idea then. I would think that anyone who doesn’t believe it is should then have nothing to fear from trying it. Maybe some of the “culture warriors” will care to give it a spin.

Craig October 6, 2011 at 12:07 pm

So, aircrews and FOs who attend SEER and get waterboarded by the instructors are actually being tortured?

Daniel Russ October 6, 2011 at 3:41 pm

Not unless they were there forcibly.

Why are so many Americans clueless about the crime of torture? Torture is wrong. Period. Stop apologizing for torture. It makes you look stupid.

Craig October 7, 2011 at 6:35 am

Oh, so “forcibly” is a pre-requisite. That means that if a prisoner is on a hunger strike and is forcibly given an IV or feeding tube, then that is torture. Glad that we cleared that one up, so that I won’t be so clueless. That way I can be more informed about the “darkest chapter in American History” as you called it. But, is Khalid Sheik Mohammad getting a wet hanky in his face really as terrible as the slave markets and plantations of the 18th and 19th centuries? I’m not sure, but I think that the Plains Indians were treated much worse than what Killer Bushy and his evill henchmen did to a few Arab terrorists. Considering what the French did in Algeria, the Brits did in India and Ireland, and the Belgians did in the Congo, they all make the CIA look like a bunch of saints. As I recall, President Roosevelt ordered the execution of captured Nazi sabateurs, after they got a fair trial in front of an Army tribunal. I bet they weren’t treated very nicely while they were in custody, either. (shit, who could blame him…sure seemed appropriate at the time.)
Describing Bush’s little escapades as the “Darkest chapter in U.S. History” is being a bit dramatic.

Daniel Russ October 7, 2011 at 6:55 am

You are truly a fiend. We hung Japanese for putting a wet hanky in Marnes’s faces.

W was the worst President who ever took power in a putsch. Those eighty ears bankrupted us quite literally and morally. THat’s not an overstatement, it’s the damned truth.

By the way,. just because someone perform more heinous tortures doesn’t make our torture right. Jesus H Christ.

Craig October 7, 2011 at 1:19 pm

I was merely responding to your statement:
“Waterboarding is torture. It is also the darkest chapter in US history.”

Sorry, but I disagree with the 2nd part of your statement. Slavery and the brutal actions against the American Indians were much worse than waterboarding a few Arab terrorists. Stating that fact is not advocating waterboarding or being a cheerleader for President-select Chimpy McBushitler and Darth Cheney. Since you were ragging on Americans for being “clueless” about torture, I used examples of other countrys’ actions which were by far much worse. If by “clueless” you mean “not knowing how to do it properly”, then maybe the CIA could take some lessons from the Belgians, Brits, and French? Forced waterboarding is nothing compared to forced amputations. That is indistputable.
Sheesh! Don’t be such a drama queen.

Relax and Check this out:

Daniel Russ October 7, 2011 at 1:37 pm

You know you’ve fallen from grace when your best defense is “Well others tortured people MUCH worst than we do”. Also, I thinkit’s funny that you call waterboarding “a wet hanky in the face”. A ‘wet hanky’ in your face would have you screaming for mercy.

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